Comments on: 49ers President’s Relocation Plan B: Oakland http://www.nflgridirongab.com/2009/12/20/49ers-presidents-relocation-plan-b-oakland/ Are you ready for some football? Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:05:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ellen http://www.nflgridirongab.com/2009/12/20/49ers-presidents-relocation-plan-b-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-271263 Ellen Sat, 02 Jan 2010 05:52:12 +0000 http://www.nflgridirongab.com/?p=11733#comment-271263 fcsuper-go to www.fieldofschemes.com and check out what has happened with Oakland, Indianapolis, Houston and Cincinnati for some examples of how stadiums do not pay for themselves, and how taxpayers end up footing the bill when personal seat licenses and naming rights $$ and sale tax $$ don't materialize as promised, and operational costs come in at far more than what was expected. The city of Santa Clara's own study showed that the stadium will not be a money maker for Santa Clara. The 49ers/Yorks will get all of the revenue from the NFL tickets, save a tiny bit of ticket tax and 35 cents per ticket for seniors. They will reap big profits from the stadium and Santa Clara will be left with crumbs. Glendale Arizona lost $2 million on their superbowl (the surrounding communities made money but the host city lost money). If you're going to make up pie in the sky fantasies about Santa Clara making money off of the stadium, be prepared to put forth some studies and actual numbers developed by someone who is impartial. The city already did an analysis of non-NFL events, and their won't be enough profit to cover the bond debt and the operational costs of the stadium. fcsuper-go to http://www.fieldofschemes.com and check out what has happened with Oakland, Indianapolis, Houston and Cincinnati for some examples of how stadiums do not pay for themselves, and how taxpayers end up footing the bill when personal seat licenses and naming rights $$ and sale tax $$ don’t materialize as promised, and operational costs come in at far more than what was expected. The city of Santa Clara’s own study showed that the stadium will not be a money maker for Santa Clara. The 49ers/Yorks will get all of the revenue from the NFL tickets, save a tiny bit of ticket tax and 35 cents per ticket for seniors. They will reap big profits from the stadium and Santa Clara will be left with crumbs. Glendale Arizona lost $2 million on their superbowl (the surrounding communities made money but the host city lost money). If you’re going to make up pie in the sky fantasies about Santa Clara making money off of the stadium, be prepared to put forth some studies and actual numbers developed by someone who is impartial. The city already did an analysis of non-NFL events, and their won’t be enough profit to cover the bond debt and the operational costs of the stadium.

]]> By: fcsuper http://www.nflgridirongab.com/2009/12/20/49ers-presidents-relocation-plan-b-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-271233 fcsuper Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:41:42 +0000 http://www.nflgridirongab.com/?p=11733#comment-271233 The talk about the move to Oakland is a slap in the face to SF, and not a serious comment. They would lose substantial revenue by moving to Oakland, because their fan base is in Silicon Valley (who have a natural inhibition about going to Oakland for any reason). Also, to the other commenter regarding the cost: the stadium will pay for itself so quickly, the 300 million or the 114 million aren't worth talking about. 49ers are just looking for some commitment from Santa Clara. This is a profitable team that will play in a stadium owned by the City of Santa Clara. They will get a sweetheart deal, and so will we! Save for 8 to 13 days out of the year, the stadium is ours to rent out for premium $$$ to the highest bidders (revenue from which isn't even being put into the figures but would definitely make the stadium profitable even quicker). Chances are that this new stadium (if designed correctly) will get several of the Superbowls over the next 20 years (much like the Cardinal stadium currently gets for being the best right now). Just one Superbowl event could pay for this whole deal! The talk about the move to Oakland is a slap in the face to SF, and not a serious comment. They would lose substantial revenue by moving to Oakland, because their fan base is in Silicon Valley (who have a natural inhibition about going to Oakland for any reason).

Also, to the other commenter regarding the cost: the stadium will pay for itself so quickly, the 300 million or the 114 million aren’t worth talking about. 49ers are just looking for some commitment from Santa Clara. This is a profitable team that will play in a stadium owned by the City of Santa Clara. They will get a sweetheart deal, and so will we! Save for 8 to 13 days out of the year, the stadium is ours to rent out for premium $$$ to the highest bidders (revenue from which isn’t even being put into the figures but would definitely make the stadium profitable even quicker). Chances are that this new stadium (if designed correctly) will get several of the Superbowls over the next 20 years (much like the Cardinal stadium currently gets for being the best right now). Just one Superbowl event could pay for this whole deal!

]]> By: Chuck http://www.nflgridirongab.com/2009/12/20/49ers-presidents-relocation-plan-b-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-271094 Chuck Wed, 23 Dec 2009 04:48:04 +0000 http://www.nflgridirongab.com/?p=11733#comment-271094 Hey Stephen Rhodes, ever heard of spell check? You call yourself a writer? Hey Stephen Rhodes, ever heard of spell check? You call yourself a writer?

]]> By: John S http://www.nflgridirongab.com/2009/12/20/49ers-presidents-relocation-plan-b-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-271073 John S Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:47:50 +0000 http://www.nflgridirongab.com/?p=11733#comment-271073 "Meanwhile, the Cedar Fair (home to Great America) was recently sold to Apollo Global Management, which could either stadium talks or even become the forst step in the 49ers’ quest to take over Great America." "either" and "forst"? Where's the editor? “Meanwhile, the Cedar Fair (home to Great America) was recently sold to Apollo Global Management, which could either stadium talks or even become the forst step in the 49ers’ quest to take over Great America.”

“either” and “forst”? Where’s the editor?

]]> By: Ellen http://www.nflgridirongab.com/2009/12/20/49ers-presidents-relocation-plan-b-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-271072 Ellen Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:43:53 +0000 http://www.nflgridirongab.com/?p=11733#comment-271072 The Yorks have been terribly disrespectful to Santa Clara citizens. They took away our right to vote on whether or not the 49ers could bypass our city charter requirement for competitive bidding when public funds are used by getting the state to write SB43 solely for them (SB43 denies us the right to vote). They have purposefully mislead people in Santa Clara about the costs-the total to Santa Clara and its Stadium Authority is $444 million ($114 mil in a direct subsidy, and $330 mil more in bonds from the Stadium Authority, to be raised through selling seat licenses and naming rights). The 49ers website, the Term Sheet, the mailer they sent into our homes recently, and now the stadium ballot measure the 49ers are trying to get on our ballot all do not mention the $330 million. 2007 documents on the city's website (49ers stadium proposal) discusses the $330 mil. They don't want Santa Clara taxpayers to know the true cost. Now, they have hijacked the ballot by getting our city council to bend to their will (once again) and let them write the ballot language. The title is 'The Santa Clara Stadium Taxpayer Protection and Economic Progress Act'. What a laugh! The SJ Merc News noted that the ballot language 'lightly touches' on the $114 million. The Yorks are trying their best to pull the wool over Santa Clarans eyes. This is what any city that deals with the Yorks has to look forward to. The Yorks have been terribly disrespectful to Santa Clara citizens. They took away our right to vote on whether or not the 49ers could bypass our city charter requirement for competitive bidding when public funds are used by getting the state to write SB43 solely for them (SB43 denies us the right to vote). They have purposefully mislead people in Santa Clara about the costs-the total to Santa Clara and its Stadium Authority is $444 million ($114 mil in a direct subsidy, and $330 mil more in bonds from the Stadium Authority, to be raised through selling seat licenses and naming rights). The 49ers website, the Term Sheet, the mailer they sent into our homes recently, and now the stadium ballot measure the 49ers are trying to get on our ballot all do not mention the $330 million. 2007 documents on the city’s website (49ers stadium proposal) discusses the $330 mil. They don’t want Santa Clara taxpayers to know the true cost. Now, they have hijacked the ballot by getting our city council to bend to their will (once again) and let them write the ballot language. The title is ‘The Santa Clara Stadium Taxpayer Protection and Economic Progress Act’. What a laugh! The SJ Merc News noted that the ballot language ‘lightly touches’ on the $114 million. The Yorks are trying their best to pull the wool over Santa Clarans eyes. This is what any city that deals with the Yorks has to look forward to.

]]> By: Cal http://www.nflgridirongab.com/2009/12/20/49ers-presidents-relocation-plan-b-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-271054 Cal Mon, 21 Dec 2009 07:13:39 +0000 http://www.nflgridirongab.com/?p=11733#comment-271054 I would rather have the 49ers stay in broken down Monster Park than go to the toilet known as oakland. I would rather have the 49ers stay in broken down Monster Park than go to the toilet known as oakland.

]]> By: james http://www.nflgridirongab.com/2009/12/20/49ers-presidents-relocation-plan-b-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-271046 james Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:01:29 +0000 http://www.nflgridirongab.com/?p=11733#comment-271046 the 49ers need to stay the fuck out of oakland. we dont need that trash in our stadium the 49ers need to stay the fuck out of oakland. we dont need that trash in our stadium

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