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	<title>Comments on: Manning vs Young: A More Admirable Path?</title>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, Manning had an outstanding season, yes, but how many times has he been on top in passing efficiency? Has he won that award six times (in seven years) like Young did?

And how many rushing yards or TDs does Manning have? Why do people always over look this part of Young&#039;s career accomplishments?

&quot;Again, this was bested by Manning by reaching the playoffs 9 times (so far) (`99, `00, `02-`08) and 7 consecutive times (another NFL Record).&quot;

How many of those seasons also had a 1000 yard rusher to take pressure off of the passing game (all but two)? Young? A grand total of 2. Manning 7 seasons with 1000 rusher, Young 2. 

Further, Young was only a starter in SF for 8 seasons anyway, AND, Manning has enjoyed a much better offensive line. I don&#039;t see Manning getting concussions three, four times a year or broken ribs for that matter. 



I will agree that Manning might go down as the best ever. But that depends upon the statistical categories continued. It&#039;s hard to argue with the highest career passing rating AND the most rushing TDs/second most rushing yards in the same player.

But then again, perhaps Young should be knocked for his durability (although clearly much of that had to do with the undersized and often injured line he had blocking for him).

Either way, it cannot be denied that Manning has rarely had to run a one dimensional offense, like Young did almost every season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, Manning had an outstanding season, yes, but how many times has he been on top in passing efficiency? Has he won that award six times (in seven years) like Young did?</p>
<p>And how many rushing yards or TDs does Manning have? Why do people always over look this part of Young&#8217;s career accomplishments?</p>
<p>&#8220;Again, this was bested by Manning by reaching the playoffs 9 times (so far) (`99, `00, `02-`08) and 7 consecutive times (another NFL Record).&#8221;</p>
<p>How many of those seasons also had a 1000 yard rusher to take pressure off of the passing game (all but two)? Young? A grand total of 2. Manning 7 seasons with 1000 rusher, Young 2. </p>
<p>Further, Young was only a starter in SF for 8 seasons anyway, AND, Manning has enjoyed a much better offensive line. I don&#8217;t see Manning getting concussions three, four times a year or broken ribs for that matter. </p>
<p>I will agree that Manning might go down as the best ever. But that depends upon the statistical categories continued. It&#8217;s hard to argue with the highest career passing rating AND the most rushing TDs/second most rushing yards in the same player.</p>
<p>But then again, perhaps Young should be knocked for his durability (although clearly much of that had to do with the undersized and often injured line he had blocking for him).</p>
<p>Either way, it cannot be denied that Manning has rarely had to run a one dimensional offense, like Young did almost every season.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is comparing apples to oranges. Why are you trying to devalue Mannings accomplishments because he didn&#039;t endure a couple years of failure? Manning never let himself be on that level. After his rookie year, he reliazed that sucked and wanted to be better than anyone else. 

This article makes no sense as it seems you&#039;re just tryin to up Young over Manning. If you want to compare Young to anyone, how about Kurt Warner who went throught the AFL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is comparing apples to oranges. Why are you trying to devalue Mannings accomplishments because he didn&#8217;t endure a couple years of failure? Manning never let himself be on that level. After his rookie year, he reliazed that sucked and wanted to be better than anyone else. </p>
<p>This article makes no sense as it seems you&#8217;re just tryin to up Young over Manning. If you want to compare Young to anyone, how about Kurt Warner who went throught the AFL.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkV</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with the comment above.  Of course the situation that &#039;really&#039; happened was the one discussed and not all the ones that did not happen.  

Very well written article.  Kudos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with the comment above.  Of course the situation that &#8216;really&#8217; happened was the one discussed and not all the ones that did not happen.  </p>
<p>Very well written article.  Kudos!</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Kerr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun Kerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>really?  just think if he&#039;d won all those high school and college accolades then wind up as a total bust in the NFL... but that&#039;s not what happened though is it? do you hate ken griffey jr. too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>really?  just think if he&#8217;d won all those high school and college accolades then wind up as a total bust in the NFL&#8230; but that&#8217;s not what happened though is it? do you hate ken griffey jr. too?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Pietras</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Pietras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First if all there are some inconsistencies with your portrayal of Steve Young’s accomplishments. (See Below)

“1994 would be his best season. Just under 4,000 yards passing, he surpassed Montana’s single season passer rating (112.8), was named NFL MVP ”
Peyton Manning bested the above accomplishment in 2004 when he posted what is arguably the best season ever for an NFL QB when he threw 49 TD’s to only 10 Int’s resulting in a 121.1 passer rating (new record). Additionally, he was named MVP of the NFL.

“In 1993 Young lead the 49ers to the playoffs.” “The following 3 seasons, 1995-1998, Young lead the 49ers to the playoffs every year.”
 Again, this was bested by Manning by reaching the playoffs 9 times (so far) (`99, `00, `02-`08) and 7 consecutive times (another NFL Record).


“He passed for over 4,000 yards and was named to the Pro Bowl. 1994 would be his best season. Just under 4,000 yards passing.”  
Again, this mark was obliterated by Manning by passing for over 4000 yds nine times (so far) in the years `99, `00, `01, `02, `03, `04, `06, `07, `08. Yet another record was broken by completing this mark 6 consecutive times.

“Young has at least one award that Peyton cannot yet boast: membership in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.” 
This is only because Manning is still in the prime of his career. If he retired tomorrow, he would be a first ballot HOF’er without doubt. He will likely end his career as the best to have ever played the position.

“But what is most impressive to me is the manner in which these achievements were obtained. 1) Through failure, 2) through injuries and pain, and 3) through perseverance and heart. Young’s professional life was a true inspiration.”
1)Peyton failed several times in the playoffs before capturing the Lombardy Trophy, 2)Peyton played the first 5 games of the `08 season through the pain of a surgically repaired knee that was healed, 3)Peyton was trashed by the media, labeled as a choker, and, more was expected of Manning because his father was a former NFL great.

Nothing against Steve Young, he was an outstanding QB who broke out of Joe Montana’s shadow when given the opportunity.  He was a charismatic leader, that defined a champion, but he’s no Peyton Manning. He may end his career as being the best to ever play the position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First if all there are some inconsistencies with your portrayal of Steve Young’s accomplishments. (See Below)</p>
<p>“1994 would be his best season. Just under 4,000 yards passing, he surpassed Montana’s single season passer rating (112.8), was named NFL MVP ”<br />
Peyton Manning bested the above accomplishment in 2004 when he posted what is arguably the best season ever for an NFL QB when he threw 49 TD’s to only 10 Int’s resulting in a 121.1 passer rating (new record). Additionally, he was named MVP of the NFL.</p>
<p>“In 1993 Young lead the 49ers to the playoffs.” “The following 3 seasons, 1995-1998, Young lead the 49ers to the playoffs every year.”<br />
 Again, this was bested by Manning by reaching the playoffs 9 times (so far) (`99, `00, `02-`08) and 7 consecutive times (another NFL Record).</p>
<p>“He passed for over 4,000 yards and was named to the Pro Bowl. 1994 would be his best season. Just under 4,000 yards passing.”<br />
Again, this mark was obliterated by Manning by passing for over 4000 yds nine times (so far) in the years `99, `00, `01, `02, `03, `04, `06, `07, `08. Yet another record was broken by completing this mark 6 consecutive times.</p>
<p>“Young has at least one award that Peyton cannot yet boast: membership in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.”<br />
This is only because Manning is still in the prime of his career. If he retired tomorrow, he would be a first ballot HOF’er without doubt. He will likely end his career as the best to have ever played the position.</p>
<p>“But what is most impressive to me is the manner in which these achievements were obtained. 1) Through failure, 2) through injuries and pain, and 3) through perseverance and heart. Young’s professional life was a true inspiration.”<br />
1)Peyton failed several times in the playoffs before capturing the Lombardy Trophy, 2)Peyton played the first 5 games of the `08 season through the pain of a surgically repaired knee that was healed, 3)Peyton was trashed by the media, labeled as a choker, and, more was expected of Manning because his father was a former NFL great.</p>
<p>Nothing against Steve Young, he was an outstanding QB who broke out of Joe Montana’s shadow when given the opportunity.  He was a charismatic leader, that defined a champion, but he’s no Peyton Manning. He may end his career as being the best to ever play the position.</p>
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