Comments on: What Our Readers are Saying About the Michael Vick Situation

By: Terry

Terry — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:07:40 +0000

The Truth said: “99.9% of the country thought the Duke lacrosse players were guilty before the victim came forth and told the truth.”

No Sale. 99.9% of BLACK and LIBERAL Americans (including the lynch mob of Durham’s Black Community and the Media) thought the Duke Lacrosse players were guilty before the Black “victim” was caught lying. The rest of America reserved judgement, many voicing open skeptisism given the ram-road tactics of the media hype.

The Truth said: “So please, let Vick have his day in court.”

If you don’t show me proof that you got behind the Duke Lacrosse players when they first got accused more than a year ago, “The Truth”, you don’t get to make this statement.

The Truth said: “None of you people where there to see anything, so how can you be so judgemental?”

Because unlike you, I don’t trust the media who, having tried to nullify the judicial process in favor of a black prostitute, have clearly, along with the same racist “Black Community”, are trying to use race-card politics as a shield against one of their “own”. It’s interesting, indeed hypocritical, for these same sectors to be complaining about “injustice” where none exists.

If anything, the cards are unfairly stacked AGAINST the prosecution in this case.

1) Vick is a millionaire

2) The media will try to diminish any evidence against him. That’s why you see them trying to shift this debate to race politics rather than evidentiary analysis, which was a weak point against the Duke players (when the media kept digging and insisting there was a MOUNTAIN of evidence), but is VERY strong against Vick (You notice the media is not interested in talking about WHERE the dog-fighting occured or where the dogs were buried, WHO owned the properties, HOW the dogs were obtained, WHO bankrolled the dog supplies, a paper/electronic trail extending across America, etc.)

3) “African Americans” will scream bloody murder and taint the judicial process again. Many Americans are acutely aware that these “Hyphenated Americans” are the true racists and thus take their complaints in that vein.

By: Nora Sinkankas

Nora Sinkankas — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:03:35 +0000

Heather, you’ve asked the question that man has sought the answer for since the beginning of time. And yes, if someone does something wrong, they should be held responsible, with appropriate consequences, regardless of race, creed, financial background, job, religious belief, etc. and therein lies the problem with the “system” and our society in general. But that discussion is for another board. And you are right: if Michael Vick were not a famous athlete, the news media probably wouldn’t have touched the story because it wouldn’t bring in enough viewers, which is what it’s all about: viewers, which equals ratings. It’s likely Mr. Vick’s cousin would’ve garnered some media attention because he is the cousin of a famous athlete, but not nearly as much as Michael Vick. The irony here is, regardless of Michael Vick’s innocence or guilt, it’s likely he may be the best thing that ever happened to the underground world of dog fighting as he is going to shine enough light on it to shut down a very large portion of it…

By: J. Hill

J. Hill — Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:31:17 +0000

Micheal Vick was not happy just being a famous football player, instead he is now known as the “dog killer”. Isnt it clear that he has too much money and time on his hands. I can think of a lot of other things he could of done with his time and money. Michael Vick should no longer play for the NFL, and nothing he or anyone else can say will make me change my mind. He is a sick person, with no heart or BRAIN. The only thing I know is that what goes around, comes around. AND his day is coming!

By: GSDismylife

GSDismylife — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:34:58 +0000

I posted a comment sometime this past Thursday, but I feel the need to post another.
I wondered how long it would take before someone stated that Vick was being picked on because he is BLACK. Cruelty knows no color line. Being BLACK has nothing to do with this accusation.
As for wanting him to suffer the same fate as his dogs, I am all for it. In fact, I think all animal abuser and child abusers and wife beaters should be hung by the genitals, but those are just my thoughts regardless of who commits the crime.
As for dogs killing, mauling, etc., that too is horrible, but as I tell my dog-training friends, dogs are just as vicious as their owners make them. As for pit bulls, we have had them in training class as puppies and they are very sweet and lovable. Of course, if they do bite, the damage is severe, but Vick’s dogs weren’t allowed to be kind. They were tortured.
As for PETA, they do some good in showing what horrible things are out there, but they are too radical for me.
I am just having trouble dealing with all the cruelty that MAN is able to dish out to the other living beings on this earth. I wish someone would find the gene that makes people horrid and remove it so this cruelty will stop.
I do realize that Vick has not had his day in court, but he did not give those animals any help and I don’t care about condemning him before a trial. Accusations this severe don’t usually come out of thin air.

By: The Truth

The Truth — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:29:26 +0000

Heather Mac. Two person contest? I didn’t say that. Maybe you need to stop blindly typing away and check message number 52 for who birthed that comment. And way off topic? This case is just the surface of things that run deeper than this case. Unfortunately, it appears you have tunnel vision and don’t see the bigger picture in these things. To refer back to your comment on OJ. Besides him being black, and a former NFL player, what does he have to do with Vick? Address that, and stop leaving yourself open with loose comments with no substance.

By: The Truth

The Truth — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 04:46:46 +0000

While everyone is on Vick and his accusations of dog fighting, why don’t you all do a bit of research on horse racing and tell me what you think. Look at how many horses are killed, and the way they are killed if they lose. And by the way, a nice sum of money is being transfered at those events. Just as with dog fighting, champion horses are bred to make other champion horses. Last but not least, if you believe the feds give a hoot about the way the dogs are treated, please, wake up, because you’re sadly mistaken. They could care less. This all boils down to the almighty dollar. The feds are most concerned with the untaxed money being made at these events. Do you all know what type of country we live in? It’s all about greed and money. Sad to say, but it’s the truth.

By: The Truth

The Truth — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:42:36 +0000

And Heather Mac, blindly typing away? Are you kidding me? How about you read all of the post up to now and read how many say Vick is guilty already, and how many say let him have a day in court. Only you me and like 3 others out of 40 or so other posters are sensible in allowing him to have a fair trial. You say “others” in your post as if you were preferning to a big percentage on this board that want a fair trial.

By: The Truth

The Truth — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:23:24 +0000

Well Heather Mac, why bring up the whole OJ trial then? That whole case was about the race card and you know it. When OJ was found innocent, in my highschool we all jumped for joy, the whites, they all raised hell. The Rodney King trial was no different. When those white policeman beat a man’s brains out on video, only to receive a slap on the risk, my race went furious, yours, hm, they went on is if all were innocent to begin with. And simplest request? Heck, how many request did he have looking at the video. If I recall correctly, wasn’t he handcuffed? What the heck was he going to do to them? Had an amature video not been on the seen by a witness, you would have never heard about it. And don’t think for a second that was the first time an incident like that has happened. Crack head or not, the man is a human being. You mean to tell me it takes that many men to restrain one person? I can go on about incidents cops in LA, Chicago, NY, Cincinatti, etc. Heck, even all the wrong doings that took place against my race during the civl rights movement in which numerous men got off scott free only to smile leaving the court room. Give me a break. Your world is totally different than mine, so the fact that you don’t see things my way is not surprising. Why don’t you respond to my examples of the white athletes that were all guilty of their acts? Address that. To get back to animals, what’s your view on hunters killing deer and hanging their heads on the wall like trophies?

By: The Truth

The Truth — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 06:13:19 +0000

To everyone against Mike Vick on this board, why are you all acting like this is the first time any of you have even heard about dog fighting? Do you know that this has been going on long before Vicks accusations? Are you aware of how many states this takes place in? I use to hear about dog fights all the time as a kid. Wow, so now this is an issue to you all. Were all of you trying to stop this cruel act before? How about this, why don’t we start a blog about bringing home our troops being sent over to fight a war. You want to talk about dog fighting which is cruel, let’s talk about this war that’s killed over 4,000 of our troops.

To football fan, Vick has not apologized because he said that he was guilty, he apologized because of the negative media this whole fiasco has brought upon the team. I suppose had the Duke lacrosse players apologized before their case went to trial they would have been guilty to huh?

To B, read message 41 and you’ll see what my comment of Rodney King is about. The fact that you say who cares about them being both black is legit. Black athletes have always been scrutinized in the media and held to a higher standard. Ted Williams once shot a bird to fans in Boston, and you know what, they have a freakin bridge named after him in Boston. Chipper Jones had a child while being married to his wife, and you know what, not once was he scrutinized in the Atlanta papers. Dany Heatly commited vehicular manslaugter by killing a teamate of his, and you know what, he wasn’t even charged for doing the crime. John Rocker made stupid comments about all kinds of races in a SI article, and you know what, he was still allowed to play baseball. I can go on if you like. But you probably don’t see things the way I do because we’re two different races living in one world that sees you and I differently. Don’t worry, and don’t try to figure this out, because it’ll never make sense to you.

And your statement about pitbulls being owned by bad owners is a joke. I know and have heard a number of times how those dogs have turned on people. And yes, these were dogs that were owned by good owners. They were not in drug houses or trained to be violent as you say.

By: Nora Sinkankas

Nora Sinkankas — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:54:24 +0000

The Truth of this matter is that there were 54 live, American Pit Bull Terriers, “some of which had scars and injuries appearing to be related to dog fighting”; 8 dead American Pit Bull Terriers; 1 “rape stand” – a device in which a female dog who is too aggressive to submit to male dogs is strapped down with her head held in place by a restraint; 1 “break” or”parting” stick, used to pry open fighting dogs’ mouths during fights; treadmills and “slat mills” used to condition fighting dogs; and other items were all confiscated on or about April 25, 2007 on a property purchased solely by Michael Vick. Now I suppose that one could argue that Mr. Vick “didn’t know” what was going on on his own property, but somehow I don’t think that is going to fly unless he can prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that he has never set foot on that property one single second of one day since the moment he purchased it “on or about” June 29, 2001 and has never spoken with the men with whom is he accused. And thank you Heather for pointing out the obvious: it does not matter one iota what color his skin is, what color his eyes are, or what NFL jersey this man wears. This is NOT a race issue, but rather an issue of morals and ethics, right and wrong. I reiterate: when a policeman / policewoman fires their weapon in the line of duty, they are on paid suspension until completion of a full investigation. Why should an NFL player, regardless of the accusation, be any different?

I am very disappointed that anyone has let their anger get the better of them in this instance because to insinuate that any of the things Mr. Vick and the other men are accused of doing to those poor dogs should be done to them only brings everyone down to the same depraved levels of this horrific occurrence. Everyone is mortified and disgusted by what has happened, but to add more violence to this situation in any form is not the way to improve the future for all animals as well as the future for the education of America’s impressionable children.